“It’s easy to look at those scenarios on a screen. It’s much harder to get a room full of scientists, government officials, and local farmers to sit together and actually inhabit them…This is a deeply philosophical, sometimes heavy conversation. We dig into the trust gap between researchers and landowners, the heavy weight of climate grief, and what it really means to have hope when the future feels profoundly uncertain.
If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by the scale of environmental loss, or wondered how we actually get people with competing interests to share the same imaginative space, this episode is a must-listen.”
matt finch / mechanical dolphin 